What makes this episode politically consequential is not merely that a DSA co-chair used provocative language; it is that she repeatedly confirmed an immigration posture that, in plain English, goes well beyond conventional liberal reform and into open-borders territory, while also situating that posture inside a broader revolutionary program for remaking the state.
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- The exchange centered on direct yes-or-no questions about abolishing borders, granting amnesty, and abolishing ICE, and Megan Romer answered affirmatively.
- Romer did not frame open borders as a near-term administrative tweak; she described it as a long-term plan tied to international policy and reduced destabilization abroad.
- The DSA’s own prior platform language, as quoted in contemporaneous reporting, had already used open-borders terminology and paired it with abolition of ICE and broad migration rights.
- The main ambiguity is not whether Romer embraced the frame, but whether she was describing an immediate governing program or a distant ideological end-state.
The interview left little room for denial
The Fox interview matters because it was structured to force specificity. Shannon Bream asked straightforward, binary questions; Romer did not evade them. According to contemporaneous transcripts and repeated reporting, she said “Absolutely” to abolishing ICE and, when asked whether the DSA would abolish borders and give amnesty to undocumented people, replied, “As a long term plan, yep.” That exchange is the hard center of the story. It is not a stray quote torn from context. It is a series of affirmative answers delivered on camera, in sequence, under direct questioning.
Romer also pushed the immigration issue beyond the narrow question of border control. She linked open borders to “a longer term international plan that involves us stopping destabilizing countries,” and elsewhere repeated that the party was “not saying open the borders tomorrow” but aiming at “an economy and a society that works for everyone.” That framing is important because it shows the logic of the position. The border question, in her telling, is downstream of a larger socialist theory of global inequality, U.S. intervention, and migration pressure. In other words, the policy is not presented as a standalone slogan; it is embedded in a world-view.
What the DSA already signaled before the interview
The interview did not emerge from nowhere. Contemporaneous reporting and archived commentary point to a pre-existing DSA current that used open-borders language explicitly. A 2019 convention resolution, as quoted in later coverage, supported “the uninhibited transnational free movement of people,” demilitarization of the U.S.-Mexico border, abolition of ICE and Customs and Border Protection, decriminalization of immigration, and a pathway to citizenship for non-citizen residents. That is not standard centrist immigration rhetoric. It is a maximalist program, and the vocabulary is not accidental; it is abolitionist in both method and aspiration.
That history is why the recent interview landed with such force. For years, critics have argued that “open borders” in socialist circles is often used to describe a long-run political end-state rather than a literal call to remove checkpoints tomorrow. Supporters generally prefer that nuance. But once a national co-chair says “yes” when asked directly whether abolishing borders and granting amnesty are part of the plan, the nuance stops mattering as much in public debate. The organization’s critics are then able to point to the plainest possible reading: not merely immigration liberalization, but a declared goal of border abolition.
The real ambiguity is strategic, not factual
The strongest caveat in the record is also the narrowest. Romer consistently described the position as “a long-term plan.” That qualifier leaves open a strategic distinction between an immediate legislative agenda and a distant ideological horizon. It is a real distinction, but it does not rescue the substance of the answer. If anything, it clarifies it. She was not denying the charge of open borders; she was redefining the timeline and explaining the rationale. That is why the debate around the interview turned so quickly from journalism into political interpretation.
There is also a media dynamic here that should be understood plainly. Rapid-fire television interviews compress ideological systems into sound bites, and once a public figure endorses a phrase as loaded as “open borders,” opponents will inevitably treat it as a confession of intent. That is not always a fair way to adjudicate policy detail, but in this case the interview itself supplied the decisive quotes. Multiple outlets reproduced the same exchange, which reduces the chance that the substance was misreported or flattened into something Romer never said.
Why this became bigger than immigration
The reason the exchange traveled so quickly is that it was never only about immigration. The same interview placed open borders alongside abolishing the Senate, the presidency, the Supreme Court, ICE, prisons, and defunding the Pentagon. Taken together, those answers presented a coherent worldview: institutions that organize coercion, sovereignty, and national defense are to be dismantled or radically reconstituted. In that context, open borders reads less like a discrete policy preference than one element in a much larger anti-state project.
That is also why the response from critics was so immediate and so predictable. Once a movement’s own leader affirms border abolition, the dispute is no longer about whether opponents are exaggerating; it becomes about whether the movement is comfortable saying plainly what it believes. DSA allies may prefer to describe the position as internationalist, humanitarian, or structurally causal. Those labels are not meaningless. But they do not change the fact that, on the record available here, Romer endorsed a long-term open-borders program and linked it to a wider strategy for transforming society.
The durable takeaway
The durable lesson is that the DSA’s immigration politics are not an interpretive mystery. The organization had already circulated open-borders language in its orbit, and a national co-chair later reaffirmed that frame when pressed directly on television. What remains open to debate is not whether the position exists, but how literally and how immediately the movement intends to pursue it. On the evidence available, the answer is clear enough for any serious reader: this was not a slip, not a dodge, and not a misunderstanding. It was a candid endorsement of border abolition as a long-range political goal.
Sources:
twitchy.com, youtube.com, denvergazette.com, mediaite.com, thehill.com, facebook.com, politicalbytes.net, instagram.com, sfarchive.dsausa.org, proteanmag.com, medium.com
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